Even being ankle length. A tall person will find these an annoying length. ReturnedFit starts out okay, I’m a pretty solid size 8, but they get loose and sloppy and stretched by the end of the day...disappointing. Definitely a short above the ankle pant.I bought a size 8, and its really slim fitting. I will not be wearing as it even makes my tummy looks fatter. Being so tight. Beware this pant does not have much stretch like a regular NYDJ. I suggest buying a size up especially if your wary of your stomach region.Not even close as pictured. The material contain 86% of cotton/ 11% of polyester/ 2% of elestane which makes these pants more stretchable. While I was looking for a thicker one. The design is also very different, resembles more pants then jeans.Dissatisfied:(Fit as expected with NYDJ but you have to be REALLY confident to wear white pants..even at a size 2...(had to return...wasn't that brave!)First I didn’t see that the hem on the bottom of the leg was unfinished. Odd for corduroys in my mind. Two, the material has a tendency to accentuate any fatty tissue, lumpiness on the back of your thigh, stomach -you name it. I’d say the spandex quality is too heavy for the gauge of the cotton fiber. Fine if you are buff and spend time daily at the gym. Not a good choice if you are 60+ and need to lose 20 lbs.beautiful color. bought a size 12 and normally wear an 8. They truly run small.thought these were mid waist but they are smaller than expected.